Talk:Rare Long Spiked Collar/@comment-35156687-20190415185015/@comment-33991602-20190415211614

Well I wouldn't say it's *very* over, but I agree that its still as high for a black long. 3 reds are 69-75 den betas even though a black long only goes up to 60, so you'd be better off trading your red longs for den betas and then trading those for a black long instead.