Talk:Rare Long Spiked Collar/@comment-38040219-20190113032531/@comment-38023415-20190113153426

You can't count them as den betas, you have the actual den betas, it even says it up there,

"The two worths listed below (Spike and Den Betas) are mutually exclusive. This means that the Den Beta worth is ONLY for Den Betas, NOT items worth Den Betas or other Spikes. (i.e. 4 Bad Longs are under for a Black Long, even though their Den Beta worths are the same.)"