User blog comment:OlinguitoAj/Pets/@comment-36455278-20190523003630

1. The squirrel is worth around 4-6 dbs, form a good long wrist- a bad/decent short collar

2. The mantis is worth about 3-5 dbs, which is worth a bad long wrist - a good long wrist

so the minimum worth for both is 7 den betas (a decent short collar) and the maximum is 11 dbs, which is worth a black short collar - a bad long collar