Talk:Rare Long Spiked Collar/@comment-37072870-20181001203456/@comment-36679789-20181002014744

If u read the top of the wiki u would no that 20 dbs is just a ABOUT estimate for a blue long. Wiki gives a basic idea about what these things r worth. NO ONE will trd 4 dbs for a long wrist. Literally, NO ONE. And 4 wrists is NO WHERE near a blue long. 2 reasons.

1.) a BAD short is worth 2 long wrists - so u would have 2 BAD SHORTS (which isn't even worth an ORANGE long)

2.) when wiki says 20 dbs for blue long, jammers accept 20 REAL dbs. NOBODY will take 4 longs wrists to subsatute for 20 dbs! when jammers want 20 dbs - what they mean is 20 REAL MEMBER / NM dbs (that are like den items)