Talk:Founders' Hat/@comment-35779778-20180927065650/@comment-36679789-20181018224022

sure im worrystone - can i do 18 dbs as a red long instead? (13 r nm) - 13 x 1.5 = 19.5 + 5 = 24.5 (aka a red long)

i can do the other red long and a decent / bad long :)

OR

If u insist..... i could to 2 red longs and a BAD LONG 

come to my den :) we can discuss... i might just end up doing 2 red and decent long but idrk