Talk:Rare Long Spiked Collar/@comment-31070145-20180604181253/@comment-35630474-20180604203637

I did just a little bit of math and here's what I got:

4+ (11+11+6) 2+3+ 1/2(1) +1+1+3=  43.5 den betas. .5 being half of an item (half a den beta)

You'll need a little bit more for a black long, probably 20-25 more den betas.