Board Thread:News and Announcements/@comment-32892226-20190215204436/@comment-32197189-20190218103136

Mooziq wrote: Personally, I think it is a good idea to not try and establish specific values in Diamonds/Gems right now simply because there are still massive variations in Jammers' opinions.

However, I do believe that these variations will slowly converge over time and after a couple/few months you might be able to list a reasonable range of common prices.

As for the idea that listing an average value would prevent Jammers from setting their own prices, the same could be said for the regular barter-trade values that this wiki was built upon. Jammers can still barter much higher or lower than the suggested average that is listed. Listing a particular barter-trade value on here doesn't suddenly force all Jammers to trade for that exact value. Jammers that have a greater desire for something will be willing to go above and those with lesser desire will try to go below. The same thing can be said for values related to Diamonds and Gems. I completely see what you mean.

Here's my 2-bob's worth:

With a bartering system, it's hard to set things in complete stone, when you're only using other items to base things off of. In a shop system, however, things can be given a very specific numerical value, and seeing as it's a very quantitative value, it's a lot easier to pinpoint something and stick with it.

Of course, higher/lower trades would happen, deviating from the listed value, but they'd happen a lot less. Look, in my selfish trading opinion, it's funner for a trade system to exist where there's no Worth Wiki or anywhere publicly documenting values, but also from a personal side, I've made tonnes of friends from here I'm very fond of, and if I could choose whether or not the Worth Wiki existed, I'd still choose to keep it. However, it is a bit of an unlevel playing field if some people know a certain value change before others have the opportunity to learn it by word-of-mouth... but once items all have a value relative to each other, then all of this is information is publicly obtainable.

I do agree that the values will probably converge over time, but it'd be nice to let the values naturally play out themselves, rather than having somehow moderating them. Obviously, the Worth Wiki is objective, but it'd be foolish to say it isn't a massive influence on the economy.

From an objective perspective, shops are another way that jammers can trade, but still on the same playing field. An item's relative value is shown on here, and jammer can and do use that to base their shop prices/values on.