Talk:Rare Short Spiked Collar/@comment-39658179-20190616132451/@comment-39813716-20190616163039

Without wrist- 18 db, a pink long+add some db, or 1 bad long+ 1 good short collar.

With wrist- 19-20 db, a blue long (potientally), 2 orange long collars, or a bad long collar+ a black short collar.

These might not be right, but I think they are around right.