Talk:Rare Long Spiked Collar/@comment-35881324-20180629165909/@comment-35203997-20180629170814

no. maybe slightly above a red long at most.

and how many times do i have to say this:

'Notice: The two worths listed below (Spike and Den Betas) are mutually exclusive. This means that the Den Beta worth is ONLY for Den Betas, NOT items worth Den Betas or other Spikes. (i.e. 3 Bad Longs ≠ a Black Long, even though their Den Beta worths are the same.)'

since you are majorly trading in spikes, YOU MUST GO BY SPIKE WORTH. this is NOT fair in spike terms IN THE SLIGHTEST. the floors and walls are highly anwanted and usally arent considered a den beta either.

this isnt fair in den beta terms either. why? BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT TRADING DEN BETAS!

this is an unfair offer. if you would like to exchange your items for den betas, then trade, that would be different. but thats not the case.