Board Thread:Questions/@comment-36019796-20180704222851/@comment-35361213-20180708100824

In theory 10, since 20 rims = den beta, and worn = .5 den beta, but you'd have to be pretty lucky to trade that. Most people don't want to part with their clothing betas for less valuable things, unless they want a specific item. I think it's much more efficient to trade this way. Often on pages with items listed as Few Rims - Clothing Beta, people will offer rims for it in the comments. Then others come and want to one-up that person to get the item (sorta like bidding). Eventually the highest offer is a clothing beta or maybe more if someone's really desperate. All you have to do is go in jamaa township for a while and make an offer of rims for it until someone trades. Then jamagram the person in the comments of the page and there, you have a new clothing beta. It's no use trying to get one for rims in the comments since everyone will be asking for the highest worth.

If you just want to trade your rims for a worn directly, then I'd suggest starting with 13 or 14, then adding more or changing them out if the other person doesn't think it's fair. If you think it's too much, don't trade it! You won't be happy with the new item if you think you overtraded. Only keep trading rims if the person says to add though, otherwise they probably aren't interested in rims anyway. It might be most efficient to say something like "trading rims for clothing betas my den" so only people interested will come and you have a better chance of them accepting.