Talk:Rare Long Spiked Collar/@comment-34971681-20180419220139/@comment-32336955-20180421000859

if you're trading spikes, the den beta worth isn't counted, but i think your offer would be fair if the art is worth 1 bad long. okay longs are counted the same as bad longs when trading for a black (so you'd trade 6), and if you count it up, you're trading red long (2 ok longs) + 2 yellow longs + blue and purple short (1 bad/ok long), so that's 5 bad/ok longs, meaning that the art would have to be worth 1 bad. shorts are hard to trade for black longs tho, but good luck on getting it!