Talk:Rare Long Spiked Collar/@comment-35279991-20181125185042/@comment-34193805-20181125185641

I'm not sure if people still trade 3 shorts for decent longs anymore but if they do then you could ask for that, trade the shorts away for den betas and once you get at least 22+ den betas then try and get a good long.

or instead get the listed worth here, 2 good shorts and a long wrist is worth exactly 20 db. convert the spikes into betas (people LOVE trading dbs for good long wrists/good short wrists like red and purple) then trade the betas for a good long.