Talk:Rare Long Spiked Collar/@comment-36944566-20181009000009

With my experience trading for a black long, I have come to these conclusions. Please note that this is not what all players want, but merley the majority of players with a black long.

Black longs are not easily traded. Because of their value and use as currency when trading for rarer and bigger items, players like to hold onto them (unless they have multiple.)  Black longs are the easiest way to trade for items without being scammed (trading 13 black longs for lp hd instead of hundreds of den betas.)  You can make direct, neat trades with them.

Players aren't usually going to want a blue long in the trade unless you over trade. Even though blue is considered a 'good' long, it is nearly impossible to trade. Usualy if you have a blue long, your going to have to have 2 red longs and a few den betas for the black long.

Generally, trading a red, blue, and purple long is a nice variety and apeals to some players, however in most cases you will have to add because as I said, blue longs are impossible to trade.

Most players don't take art as a value item. Art is hard to trade, and if you substitue it for a good chunk of the trade (one good long), you most likely aren't going to get it (unless it is VERY realistic). Adding art as an overtrade is fine and most players will accept that (as long as it is somewhat decent.)

DEN BETA WORTH IS NOT THE SAME AS TRADING LONGS! Nobody is going to trade their blue long for four good long wrists. Therefore, trading 3 yellow longs (which is 48 den betas worths) is not a fair trade for a black long.

Most of the time people want about half to be nonmember, making it easier just to trade with spikes.

If this is helpful, please let me know and also comment if you have any comments? This is form my experience, so if you don't agree, tell me POLITELY.

Side note: I got my black long for the following:

- red long

- blue long

- purple long

- white cupids

- art (worth a bad long)

- candy cane socks (red)