Talk:Rare Long Spiked Collar/@comment-36502719-20180914222022/@comment-34193805-20180914232001

beta worth for 16 camis :  64

spike worth : assuming each are worth a long wrist, 4 of them are worth a long collar so 4 x 4 = 16. it would be worth 4 longs worth?

people usually take 12-13 short collars or 20 solid wrists for black long I think