Talk:Rare Long Spiked Collar/@comment-32434411-20170719183616/@comment-31364449-20170721132146

You don't actually HAVE trade 10,000 den betas. as den betas

Most of the time you'd trade big items so they add up to 10,000 den betas.

For example a Magenta Furry is  33 - 35 black longs. A black long is worth 60 - 72 den betas. And even with the limit of 20 items per trade, you can trade another rare longs worth  20 - 25 den betas to add up to the black long.

Just do the math with certain items and they can add up to 10,000.