Talk:Rare Long Spiked Collar/@comment-35237773-20180711194458/@comment-33128626-20180711220319

A blue long is 2 bad longs.

den beta worth is not equal to actual den beta count which is why even though 3 good long collars is over in den beta worth for black long it's still what's considered fair.

16 db worth + 4 db is not equal to 20 :)