Board Thread:Animal Jam Talk/@comment-36160852-20180712001359/@comment-36160852-20180727182427

NightmarenX wrote: Its more due to demand, then whether or not the item is scarce or not. Honestly I don't think headdresses are scarce. They seem pretty common, but thats just me. The "removal" of the Headdress, doesn't really add much to the worth, but i get what your saying (I don't really call them removed sense they are still in-game). When you talked about the carnival items, I got a bit confused. You wanted those to be more because they cost more? It kinda clashes with what you said about Head Feathers and that they shouldn't be what they're worth (them both being easily obtained from your logic). You can buy carnival tickets for gems, they aren't a lot. every 500 gems = 1,000 tickets. Heres a shot to prove if you don't wanna check. → You also have to think, gems are easily obtained. Thru adventures, games, etc. Now, if the tickets were worth diamonds that would be another story (also depending on what the ratio is). You also stated that we are able to buy Head Feathers? Some proof would be nice. I checked and see none (unless it was removed, etc.) '''Things in AJPW does NOT i repeat, does NOT affect AJ trading system. '''The logic on saying that if the old carnival item colors came back, then likely of headfeathers coming back, please elaborate (I don't see the affect carnival items would have on Head Feathers?) You also have to think, it depends on the person and how much you and said person agree on the trade.

Thats my take away, reply back if you can answer the question(s) given. Thank you for your time (´・ω・`)!

''Note: Headdresses are going down in price, not up. (Because they are becoming unwanted.)''

[Edit: Had a few grammatical errors that i had to fix, lol.] Sorry if it seemed a bit confusing, I'll elaborate.

Q: "You wanted [star hats] to be [worth] more because they cost more?"

A: Not exactly, but kind of. I was comparing star hats to the headfeather, and how they both went out of stores and recieved varients. (The star hats recieved a new batch of colors, while the headfeather was "re-released" as "headfeathers" in the diamond shop. I also pointed out that star hats were harder to earn, because earning tickets can really be a drag. If we weren't talking about tickets, and just about gems, the star hat would be worth 1,000 gems, while the headfeather is only worth 100 gems (325 gems for RIM). Usually, items obtain their value because of how obtainable it first was. For example, founders hats are rare because not as much people played back then. The old monthly member gifts (party hats, beta tails, nature archways, etc) are rare because not much people were members back then. Sure they were both easily obtainable- but the star hats were in the summer carnival (which, lets be honest, not much people go to), and worth more in gems, making it less obtainable than the headfeather.

"Things in AJPW does NOT i repeat, does NOT affect AJ trading system."

A: Yes, I know, but I was just saying how the headfeather being released in AJPW may clear up the confusion that the headfeather was not "removed" like the headdress. You can't buy the headdress in AJPW, but you can buy the headfeather. Which means the headfeather, really isn't that big of a deal.

Q: "I don't see the affect carnival items would have on Head Feathers?"

This one is a bit of a stretch. But hear me out. They both share similarities.

- They both were released and obtainable in stores.

- They both became "unobtainable" in 2013-2014

- Both recieved the "rare" tag

- Both have had re-released variants

Since they both have the rare tag, and share such similiarties, I don't see why one being released will also lead to the other.

 "it depends on the person and how much you and said person agree on the trade."

A: Yes, on some parts I agree with that. But the AJ wiki affects how we trade as well. Everyone will look up an items worth on the wiki at least once while playing Animal Jam, and that affects how much we trade. If the demand is high, we would overtrade thinking the value would rise over time. If the demand is low, we would wouldn't trade for it- or trade the minimum value, thinking it would decrease in value over time.

We rely heavily on the wiki- if the wiki said the tiara was worth a short collar, people would go trade short collars for it- even though it really isn't worth that much.

What if the Wiki was wrong? And the item was ranked because of bias... or misunderstandings and assumptions? Then the item that was ranked so high, really doesn't deserve it's place.

I hope I answered all your questions! But I still believe that the headfeather doesn't deserve to be worth what it is. Maybe a long wrist? But not a long collar or good short.