User blog comment:AliCake/The rare system is messed up../@comment-34683957-20181023063501

If you look at the notice on the top of the spiked collar page, it states the following;

-The two worths listed below (Spike and Den Betas) are mutually exclusive. This means that the Den Beta worth is ONLY for Den Betas, NOT items worth Den Betas or other Spikes. (i.e. 3 Bad Longs ≠ a Black Long, even though their Den Beta worths are the same.)

Mutually exclusive means that the worth of 40-60dbs and has no bearing on the spike worth ( 6 bad or decent long collars). They are seperate trading currencies. Imagine if you had a black long, would you accept 4 orange longs(40-44dbs) for it? If you are being traded in spikes, think of the spike worth. Period. There is no need to bring den beta worth into it, because you arent being traded any den betas!

'So either the number of den betas for a black long needs to be changed or the number of longs per black long'--> this would only happen if the currencies were inclusive. And they arent because the trading community decided that black long=6 bad or decent long collars, so such a change wont happen anytime soon.

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if you think about it, you can use this exclusiveness to your advantage ;)

e.g. you have 4 orange longs--> trade each of them for PURE den betas--> now you have around 40-44dbs--> now trade the den betas(safely) for a black long.

oof this turned out long, I hope I made some sense D: