Talk:Den Betas/@comment-37415861-20190122141116/@comment-32872810-20190122195351

Actually 2 books is fair because 1 book is worth a good short. A black short = 2 good shorts. If the person was asking only for den betas (small ones), then 10-11 is fair.

As for the cami's it's a bit over because 4 cami's = a decent short. So 5 would be 2 decent shorts and a decent long wrist.