Talk:Rare Long Spiked Collar/@comment-34775913-20180630025006/@comment-34683957-20180630044648

Dont mix spike worth and den beta worths up.

Red long is 2 decent longs... which means your list is not fair in comparison.

If you wanna do 'den beta worth', then trade all those items and get actual den betas. Then trade those 25-28dbs for a red long (which is fair).