Talk:Den Betas/@comment-32932810-20170925235756

Hi everyone, last time I posted on this thread I was critisized a lot. I had put the wall torch on this page because it was in stores during the beta stage and on animal jam wiki there was no further information about it, so I assumed it hadn't been in stores for a long time. I had complained in the comments about changing it back, complaining that it is a real beta, but no one would do their research and it was undone a lot. I ended up getting blocked for a week immediately as the aj wiki page got updated with new information, which said it had just left stores in 2015. Kawaiilove12 Argued: " Once again, -takes a deep breathe- it is not a den beta, it was released during beta testing but it is not one and people don't consider it one." Betas aren't determined by a community, they are determined by the time it was released. I understand that some items might not be worth as much because they were in stores 2 years ago, but I really want people to understand what a "beta" is.

Here are a list of Items that are widely considered "beta" but are not.

*Wood Floor: released sometime after beta testing, somewhere around a couple of months

*Spaceship Gray: Unknown whether beta or not, never been confirmed

*The Claw: Released August 2011, a year after beta stage

*Porch Swing: Released May 2011

*Open Sign: Released 2011

*Red Brick Walls: Released before 2012, not in 2010 though

*Pot O' Gems: December 2010

*Mira Statue: December 2010

*Gecko Plushie: October 2010

*Green Gecko Plushie: September 2011 - 2014

*Basket of Candy: April 2011

*Globe:  January 2011

*Scarecrow: October 2010

*Fly Trap: February 2011

*Traffic Cone: ??? (Known not to be beta)

*Sewing Machine: March 2011

*Basketball: June 2011

That was just to prove my point. Computers for instance are beta, but they were taken out of stores in July 29, 2014. The wall torch was taken out of stores sometime in 2015, So I guess It will be allowed on this page in 2018? I don't understand how this page works.

Also from what I gather from Coral corner items,

Painted Pots were removed sometime after June 2013. The porch swing and the sewing machine was taken out of stores in 2011. According to this page, They count as "a good beta" When most people don't realize Painted pots are pretty good too. I have managed to collect most coral corner items, some aquired with in stores items, some aquired with like 3 other betas. (See my den, my name is ogl) Basically I want people to Understand what a beta is and that betas aren't the ONLY good den items. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY ESSAY I HOPE YOU ENJOYED IT IT TOOK ME LIKE 30 MINUTES :DDDDDDDDDDDDD